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2Pac On KMEL's Westside Radio Program
Sway, KMEL's Westside Radio Program, April 19th 1996, transcribed by Davey D (errors fixed by Rukas.)
Earlier this year.. Friday April 19 1996, Tupac Shakur graced the airwaves of KMEL Radio's Westside Radio program in San Francisco. Here, in an historic interview he let the entire Bay Area know exactly what he was feeling and thinking at that point in time.
For those who weren't up on the backdrop at the time that interview aired, 2Pac had not spoken to anyone extensively since joining Death Row. His album, 'All Eyes On Me' was the album of choice for more then a few headz especially here in the Bay Area. The Bad Boy/ Death Row conflict was at an all time high... No one from the Death Row camp had spoken on co-founder Dr Dre's departure. More importantly, 2Pac had not been through the Bay in what seemd like years...My boy Sway of The Wake Up Show was the person asking the questions..
First of all 2Pac congratulations on your success... Most people from the Bay Area couldn't be there by your side, but we felt like with every episode you went through we were there. We saw you through the media and we were right there. Brothers gotta a lotta love for you here in the Bay Area and we wanna know when you're planning on coming back?
2Pac: I'm comin' back for sure.. and I love the Bay. Everywhere I go.. and every episode I've been through, I always felt like I was sharing it..both the good times and the bad times with the Bay Area. I felt like whatever I am the Bay Area had something to do with making me. So if I'm bad they had something to do with making me and if I'm good they had something to do with making me. Between the east coast, the Bay Area and LA and Baltimore, those places made me....I owe them everything. It's not like I just got love for one block. I got love for those communities.. I got love for those areas because everything about those areas made me who I am... From the crack heads to biggest ballers to the teachers to the principals in schools to the police that pulled me by the arm to the mammas on the block. To everybody who help raise me and I appreciate it...With all my fans I got a family again. When I started rappin' I was talkin' about broken homes and now everybody is alright again just because of my fans being behind me..they made it more then just an artist thing..instead it was like them saying 'hey that's our homeboy and we support him. I appreciate that... I went to jail and they made me number one.. I appreciate them stickin' up for me when everyone was kickin me when I was down... That's love and I'll never trade that..so for the Bay and Philly and all those areas and all those ghettos and towns..I love y'all..don't let this east coast west coast thing get to you... I love you with all my heart with everything. I do this for y'all....
It seems like every time you come up something happens to bring you back down.. When you're caught up like that what is it that goes through your mind when you got millions of fans wondering about you?
It hurts me in one way because they be lookin' at me saying 'Damn you got everything why are you doing this?' In my heart I'll be saying 'Damn you know I don't wanna go to jail..I'm trying to live.' On the other hand, I can't really take it personal because I'm a reflection of the community... All young Black males are going through that..It's happening with a lot of young Black females also young white males... A lot of minorities are going through that where they try to come up and get pulled back five steps... To me it's not personal because they're all going through it. The only thing that makes it different and original with me is that people get to watch it from beginning to end like it's a soap opera. You get to watch mine and with everyone else they get to hide and go to their homes and get over it. With me you see me dealing with my greatest pains. You see me get over things....
What went through your head when you got shot in New York and that whole complication?
I can't front. It slowed me down. What went through my mind was 'like damn I'm shot'. I used to believe I could never be touched. So now I'm more careful. Some people may say I'm disrespectful..but I'm more cautious because I have been shot. I know what that feels like. I'm not trying to be in that predicament. I know we all have choices to make and my choices have already been made even if I wanna change it. What I learned in jail is that I can't change. I can't live a different lifestyle..this is it. This is the life that they gave and this is the life that I made. You know how they say 'you made your bed now lay in it? I tried to move... can't move into some other bed. This is it. Not for the courts. Not for the parole board. Not for nobody. All I'm trying to do is survive and make good out of the dirty, nasty, unbelievable lifestyle that they gave me. I'm just trying to make something good out of that. It's like if you try and plant something in the concrete..if it grows and the rose pedals got all kind of scratches and marks, your not gonna say 'Damn look at all the scratches on the rose that grew from the concrete'. Your gonna say..Damn! A rose grew from the concrete? Well that's the same thing with me.. Folks should be sayin' 'Damn! he grew out of all that?.. That's what they should see.
Brother you must be truly blessed to go through all these trials and tribulations you've been through and you're still maintaining. Even now they're still comin' after you. You got these demons and obstacles that keep comin down harder and harder. It seems like everytime you turn around, you got somebody knockin' on your door trying to take something from you....
They come harder and harder. It's like everytime I think this is it and I go all out to beat that and I win or I lose...I come into the next one and it's worse. It's like the twilight zone. It's like some evil, unstoppable shit that won't let me go. It's got it's hands on me and it wants to see me fail. In my mind sometimes when I'm drunk or I'm just laying down..I keep thing to myself, 'Damn is this true?.. Am I gonna fail? Am I supposed to fail? Should I just stop trying and give up? But then I'm like 'Naw, hold up hold on..that's exactly what they're waiting on me to do'... They're waiting for me to give up. So now this is just a fun little game that I cry at sometime..that I laugh at sometime..that I smile at and have good times and bad times..But it's a game. It's the game of life....Do I win or do I lose?. I know one day they're gonna shut the game down but I gotta have as much fun and go around the board as many times as I can before it's my turn to leave...
How did you first get down with Suge Knight and Death Row?
I used to always see Suge. When they did the soundtrack for Murder Was The Case and I was going through all those legal problems. He was like 'Yo give me a song dog'. I gave him a song and I got the most I ever got for a song. It was damn near an album budget. I got something like 200 thousand dollars for one song and they didn't even use it. But I still got paid for everything I did for the sound track. I remember when he did it.. He did it not because he was jocking me, but because he knew I was having crazy legal problems and I was a man. He had asked me to come to Death Row and I told him I wasn't ready,. Instead of taking it personal he did that for me and I appreciated that.
So when I was in jail just sittin' there I was gonna quit rappin' but then Puffy and Biggie came out in Vibe Magazine and lied and twisted the facts. All I wanted to do was end everything and walk away from the shit. I wanted to get out the game. I'm trying to get out the game and they wanna dirty up my memory. They wanna dirty up everything I worked for. So instead of quittin' it made me wanna come back and be more relentless to destroy who used to be my comrades and homeboys.
These guys were my closest click. I worked hard all my life as far as this music business to bring about east coast west coast love and make everybody feel comfortable. I dreamed of the day when I could go to New York and feel comfortable and they could come out here and be comfortable. So when people ask me about this east coast/west coast thing it's not silly at all...but you can't disrespect the love. You can't disrespect the peace treaty.. That's just like when the Indians made deals with the white dudes and they would just come and rape their women and shoot'em up and leave...of course the Indians aren't gonna love white people no more.. They're gonna want to kick up some dust until people think about it and re negotiate the terms of the treaty and that's where this east coast west coast stuff is at right now. We gotta have this beef and these words and this dialogue until we can re negotiate the terms of the treaty. I love the east coast..I from the east coast, but they have to understand you just can't be saying shit about us and think we're not gonna take it personally... You just can't be calling us fakers and pretenders and non-creative and say we can't freestyle..and we just sit back and say 'Naw it's cool 'cause we love them because they started hip hop'. Hell no, we're gonna take it personal, just like a kid would when his bigger brother who ain't doing his shit steps to him. That's like a little brother making lots of cash and the bigger brother comin' along and sayin' 'You owe it all to me' That's wrong.. Don't be mad because the little nigguh is comin' up
Now is the east coast /west coast beef, really both coasts? Or is it Bad Boy and Death Row ?
It's not both coasts. What it is..is the people on the East coast are real proud and real cultural and real strong like we are on the west coast. What happen was Biggie came at a time just like Hitler did with the Germans. Biggie came at a time when they were open to somebody saying 'We're the master race and these guys [west coast] are nothing. They're pretenders and this is why we're not makin' it in the business. It's because of these guys. This is why we're not doing nothing."
So the east coast really not hatin' us or knowing anything about us..have just been listening to their supposed to be leader. They were listening to the person who's supposed to be representing' for them... They didn't know that what they were doing was ending our culture. We [west coast] held it down for you all. That's how I felt. I was in tears.. When LL was out there dancin' with women in silver suits which I'm not mad at..because I might do that one day.. But when the East coast was trying to be creative and test other boundaries we were holdin' it down with this hardcore shit. It might not have been what you [east coast] wanted but it kept rap alive for years. It kept money comin' in. It let them [the world] notice us. So how could you [east coast] look at us and say 'You're not good enough'? We're from a broken home. Y'all [east coast] didn't teach us this.. we ain't got no subways and graffiti.
In spite of the gangs and all of that we still came up with this culture. I feel like we never got what we deserved. I took it personal because I'm from the East coast and I know about that culture but I know about this [west coast] culture because I was here when it was being put down...So now I'm doing what the East coast would've did if the west coast did this to them... I'm riding..for my side. You're wrong..It's not right..
Recognize us. The only way the east coast is gonna recognize us if for us to do it on record, by money, by sales and by representing. Just like KRS-One...when PM Dawn got on stage and he had been talking shit about him..what did KRS-One do?....[He bum rushed him] So why are people telling me I'm wrong for doing what I'm doing. They love KRS-One.. He is hip hop..am I correct? I'm mad at Biggie and I'm rushin' the nigga. What's the problem?
As soon as the east coast separate themselves from Biggie we will do shows in the east.. Everything is beautiful..But so far the east coast has been with him. Everything I read..every letter I read. every interview I read niggas keep saying 'Fuck 2Pac..Biggie Biggie this and Biggie Biggie that like he's representin' everyone from the east coast. That's why I attack the way I do.. I'm a general and I'm a smart general and I'm not gonna attack at no blind soldier. I'm gonna attack those who attack me. The only reason why people was mad was because I came out of jail and made this a reality. When I got out of jail the east coast west coast shit was really started. California Love, when I was singin' put it down. and now nigguhs is mad because money is fucked up, attitudes have changed..it's not as safe as it used to be. Nigguhs gotta think about their business and that's what I wanted to happen..Now let's go to the table..Let's talk..Let's make peace..let's work it out...let's give the community the money.
So are you saying a conversation with Puffy and Biggie would...
I wouldn't sit down and have a conversation with Puffy and Biggie..because that's like Scarface sitting down with the dude he's hoping to rule. They are not on my level..but I can sit down with the OGs and from there [back east] which we are doing. People need to now we're not beefing with the East coast.. We're about to start Death Row East with Eric B and all the OG nigguhs out there. We got Big Daddy Kane.. Christopher Williams..we're trying to get Bobby Brown. We're trying to get the East coast Death Row to be like the West Coast Death Row and make it major. We're not doing that until we get this business settled.. Even while we're doing this we're trying to get Wu-Tang.. I feel as though they represent the east coast the way we represent the west coast and I love them. If everybody's raps is what they really think then everybody should understand what I'm doing. It's gangsta shit..It's warrior shit.. and it's all by the rules of the game. I'm calling for dialogue. I'm gathering attention for dialogue which is what you do in a struggle for power.
People think I just got outta jail and just because I got shot on the east coast, I was like fuck the east coast... Noooo... Half the rappers on the east coast was there when I got shot and nobody knew a thing... That's just like you coming to the hood and the police asking what happened, and noone knew, You know they lyin. And all I was doin was like... give me my proper etiquette. If Biggie was out here on the west coast, he was in the studio with me and we homeboys and he got shot, no I wouldn't tell him who did it, I wouldn't ride on the niggaz who did it, but he would want to know who did it... Then I'd be like 'Look man these niggaz from Watts did it... boom this is why they wanna talk to you wah wah wah' That's how I do it. Just like when the niggaz form the 60's wanted to get Stretch, I went to him personally and talked to him. I do it by the rules of etiquette... So I was like 'Yo what happened? Come see me in jail' Biggie on all on the air like 'Yeah Pac is my homeboy' but not seeing me. My homeboy Stretch is going to the Biggie's concerts. Niggaz is like abandoning me. But all on the air on on TV they was like 'Yeah Pac, rest in... Keep the struggle on' I was like Yo I'm startin to turn into like Slick Rick... Niggaz is just gonna act like I'm in jail and give me shout outs and try take my position and if you watch that's what Biggie did, listen to... I was there, I trained the nigga.. He used to be under me like my lieutenant. I use to come to New York, I use to do shows and let the nigga come on before I did "Keep Ya Head Up" and "I Get Around" coz nobody knew the nigga in New York... And I used to tell the nigga, Yo If you wanna make your money you gotta rap for the bitches. Do not rap for the niggaz... I told the nigga, do not rap for the niggaz... rap for the bitches. The bitches will buy your records and the niggaz'll want what the bitches want. So all of a sudden he changed from being... listen to 'Party and Bullshit' Listen to his style. He changed from being that to Big Poppa because of me. And he had my album "Me Against the World" was the second one... He had the first one. I changed everything because "Ready 2 Die" came out and it sounded like my album... All my album was about dealing with death, then "Ready 2 Die" came out and I had to switch it.
When you were listening to it, that was his success, because he took like the west coast sound....
I told him that. I told him that... I trained him, he was supposed to be Thug Life, All when he was comin up, I told him, I use to let him come on stage with me, he was screamin Thug Life, He was like 'I hate brooklyn, I hate New York, I'm not with them niggaz, Puffy cheatin me, woo-woo-woo-woo... All of a sudden he blew up, and he wasn't sayin thug life, so I started gettin mad and I was seein the nigga places and he was huggin me 'Yo Pac, you was the only nigga that woo-woo-woo' And he told me like, a week before I got shot, he know the niggaz that shot me and he was like 'Pac, don't hang around this nigga and he normally walked in with the nigga that shot me, that ended up shootin me. He was like 'Pac, don't fuck with these niggaz' Cuz I knew the niggaz too... He was my co-defendant. I was like 'What do you mean?' and he was like 'I'll talk to you about it later' and we never talked. And next time I saw him was in the studio after I got shot, so I knew he knew what happened. So I was like 'Biggie, what happened?' and he kept sendin me messages like a bitch like I'm gonna come see him.. 'No, nigga, What Happened?!?' While I'm in jail, strangers is tellin me, 'Yo you don't know? Biggie's homeboy shot you' Cuz they braggin. They tellin their niggaz in jail 'We just got Pac, woo-woo-woo-woo' And my cousin was in jail in New York, cuz I got family out there.. he's sittin right there while the niggaz get in the car callin 'Yo my homeboyz just jacked that nigga 2pac!' So that's how I know who shot me, what happened, and everything' They mad because I know what happened, That's why they all, you notice Biggie and them, they not ridin.... That's why, what I'm doin... I know what Im doin, I'm destroyin them... I fucked his wife, I'm fuckin him in the game, I'm destroyin him... He lives by the rules of the game, He lives off a mafia image. I'm bringin him, I'm showin him how he totally disregarded the rules of the game and he's everything but a mafia nigga. I'm showin him...If anybody's a mafia nigga, Me!! Nigga, I fucked your bitch!!! I took five shots!!!.. I went in your crew...I mean, I just what? I went to New York.. They don't do shows out here... I did Saturday Night Live... Yall forgot! Live in New York.. where everybody knew I was gonna be there on stage... No problems.. went to the clubs everything... In the middle of my west side ridin'... You know what I mean? Cuz I'm real about it... I don't hate New York. But if yall don't understand it then fuck it yall get rolled over too because I hear yall... I was in jail and I heard what they was sayin on the radio.. you know how we got the wake-up shows... They got their little mix shows too... with Red Alert, and this nigga, and that nigga, and whats his name?? Flex... And I swear to God dog they use to have these little commercials where they would just diss the west coast... They was like 'Hey Dog, What's Up Dog' And I use to be like in jail in New York on my radio like 'Ohhhh shit' you know how you would feel if you heard your own niggaz clownin you? And I was like 'Oh man' And all my homeboys like, 'Yo Puffy just did a show out here' and I was like 'how was it' It was like 'Good we gave him love, we gave em this...we gave him that' He was talking all this unity shit... But then when they go home, Q-Tip. they make all these underground tapes dissin us.
Q-Tip??
Yeeesss. Q Tip. So then when niggaz ride back they wanna talk about the culture and be hip-hopish again . But that's not fair! How you gonna be bold.... but that's what they all do, they all play bad-asses... I remember the Fugees diss me on the air and on MTV... Not personally, They dissin the West coast. Its on there about California Love... like 'East side is the best side' I seen 'em. All them niggaz is talkin about how much they respect me and love me... and.. see. I hate that! Cuz I be dead serious! Now Chino XL is talkin bout', He got a rhyme, well you know how he always got these little metaphors, he's sayin 'You'll get fucked like 2pac did in jail', Now I'm tellin yall before-hand, off the air, I'm gonna beat this nigga's ass. And everybody's gonna be talkin about how wrong I am and how I haven't changed, but what am I supposed to do when a nigga disrespects my manhood like that? See what I mean? It's like I can't get out the game. Just like Scarface and them... I wanna be legit... I got restaurants coming out with Alianis Morrisette. Me, Suge, Snoop, and Alianis Morrisette opening up a restaurant. I'm doing a soundtrack. My first soundtrack for this movie I'm doing Gridlock'd. I got Alanis on there, Michelle, Incolacio (sp) whatever her name is... All this shit coming up, but whats gonna reign supreme in 96 and 97 is the ride that I'm doing and I feel like I'm doing it for hip-hop.. I'm just trying to get the imposters out... I remember Biggie sleeping on my couch. I remember beggin bitches to fuck him...
Ooooohhhhh!!!!
You feel me? You see, Big Poppa don't mean nothing to me and he know it. That's why he can't fight me.. That's why he can't battle me... You know what I mean? I can make songs talking exactly about him and he can't talk about me... Because he know I'm the one that used to buy him champagne... All that shit he was talking about...That was me buying him that! Because when he was doin' his album, he was broke nigga! I was having money... The shit he talkin about was my life!!! Thug Life!! Thats what he talking about All those Junior Mafia was young mutha fuckaz who I gave money to get on the train and go home every night. Lil Cease and all them (Lil Kim) Yeah.. So now they rapping against me and you can imagine how I fuckin feel!! When I got arrested in New York, I got arrested for Biggie... Those guns in my room was Biggie's guns cuz them cowards left the room when they heard the police was downstairs and everybody left their guns in my room... Serial numbers scratched off and everything. And I did not snitch, I took that case. So you can IMAGINE how I feel! When Im in jail for that case and he out there living a mafia lifestyle. Givin me no money, givin me no respect. Givin me no tribute... Rollin with my road dog who was there when I got shot... I mean cmon man... I'm not paranoid... I'm not paranoid. Yall niggaz know what time it is... What it is is those east coast drug dealers got those niggaz under extortion. I came and fucked up everything... Cuz I dissed them niggaz in the daily news. They put a hit out on me. When the niggaz tried to rob me, that's all they wanted to do, I knew it. They told me that's what they wanted to do... They were sending messages through my closest road dog's saying 'Pac why did you fight them? They was just coming to take your shit' but I wouldn't let nobody take my shit... And I was strapped that day. I had two double-glocks on me and when I pulled for my shit, that's when I got shot... And the reason I knew my homeboy set me up because my homeboy knew I was strapped. The dudes came straight for me... My homeboys behind the niggaz and they didn't do nothing. All they had to do was grab the nigga and I could have bussed. But they got guns so these niggaz coming up to me and they just sitting there. And they said Get and these niggaz drop to the floor. I knew it was a set-up. Nobody came downstairs till after I got shot.
And then after you got shot, you shot you went up their like you was a ghost?
Yo when I walked upstairs haha... I seen it in their eyes... I can never describe this look until you get shot, and you see yourself. They looked at me like this.... I walked out the elevator cuz I didn't know I was shot in my head or nothing.. They said int he Vibe interview they said I was actin like I was in a movie... What they really trying to say is this nigga is raw. I got shot 5 times, came upstairs, Did not know I had been shot five times... I thought I had only been shot once...
What's going on with Dre and how does that effect Death Row ?
Dre is doing his own thing.. It doesn't effect us..My take on what happened was that Snoop went on trial for murder for his life..somebody said Dre was in the car.. The jury believed that, see we needed Dre to be able to say he wasn't there..once they would've saw that he wasn't there that would've saved Snoop's whole case. They would've saw that the witness was lying. Dre never showed up. He said he was too busy. That's how they told me..When they told me that I was like no matter how dope he is and Dre was one of my heros in the music industry..If he's not down for his homeboys.. I don't wanna be a part of him or around him. Plus I feel that what was done in the dark will come to light. There are secrets that everybody's gonna find out about.. and you'll know what I did it. I swear to god y'all we are living by the rules of the game.
Let's talk on some other things like your new movie and soundtrack you're working on?
We got a movie called 'Gridlockd' coming out which is a mainstream movie. It's me coming back into the theaters with Tim Ross from Pulp Fiction.. I don't know who it is, but there's a big name female in the movie. I'm the music supervisor for the sound track. It's my first chance ever doing something like this... We got Allanis Morresset and all these other big name alternative groups . It's supposedly people I would never get with.. I got them all on the sound track just to show what kind of range I got.. I'll be putting that type of sound track out and then I'll be putting out a rap sound track. I'm gonna do it like a 2Pac album with me doing a whole bunch of solo songs and Snoop on there doing some songs. This is just to show I have a business mind as well as a creative mind. I can make my way in this business besides rapping.
So you worked with Janet Jackson.. I was wondering if you can hook me up with her number?
If anybody finds Janet, tell her I'm looking for her. That's why I said that shit in my song 'My Minds Made Up', bout forgive me Janet. I feel like she got shit twisted and people gone made her my enemy. She ain't my enemy.. I ain't mad at her. I want her to know that. It ain't even like that. She met me at a time in my life when I was real immature. I was comin' up and going through a lot. Now she probably sees me in a whole different light. Maybe not and maybe she will. I want that opportunity. When I see Janet, I 'm gonna try to make right where we made wrong.
Five years from now what do you see yourself doing?
I see myself having a job on Death Row... Being the A&R person and an artist that drop an album like Paul McCartney every five years. Not that I'm like Paul McCartney but there's no rapper who ever did it so that's why I use him as an example... But I wanna do it at leisure. My music will mean something and I'll drop deeper shit. I'll have my own production company which I'm close to right now...I'm doing my own movies. I have my own restaurant...which I got right now with Allanis or Suge or Snoop. I just wanna expand. I'm starting to put out some calendars for charity. I'm gonna start a little youth league in California so we can start playing some east coast teams..some southern teams ... I wanna have like a Pop Warner League except the rappers fund it and they're the head coaches. Have a league where you can get a big trophy with diamonds in it for a nigga to stay drug free and stay in school. That's the only way you can be on the team. We'll have fun and eat pizza and have the finest girls there and throw concerts at the end of the year. That's what I mean by giving back.
What's the one thing you would like people to know about you?
Number one, when I diss y'all..meaning like when you come up to me and I'm not giving you the type of reaction that you think I should give you, it's not because I'm ungrateful... It's because I'm nervous. I'm paranoid, I just got out of jail. I've been shot, cheated lied and framed and I just don't know how to deal with so many people giving me that much affection. I never had that in my life. So if I do that ..don't take it personal..Try to understand it and see it for what it is. Now I understand what its truly like to be a fine female who goes to a club and all the guys just rush you before you're ready to be rushed. Everyone is touching you before you're ready to get touched. So now I have a better understanding of what it's like to be a woman.. I have a better understanding of fans not making you do things. I'm gonna do it because I love y'all.. I do appreciate what you did ..But if you make me do it..then I don't wanna do it.. I don't care how many albums you brought. My fans to me are people who follow me who are down for me..who understand me and no matter what people say, they know me... Because they've followed me through my career. A lot of people just bought my album.. I buy albums all the time. I just buy them to listen to...If you brought my album, you bought it for the music. You didn't buy it so when you see me, I just break down and start eating you out. I don't like that.. Don't start extorting me for an autograph. I'm real. I give autographs when I want to...I wanna be in this game for a long time. I don't ever wanna hate the fans That's what these other niggaz do. They might give you autographs all the time, but they hate you. They never even look at you like people. I do look at you like people. That's why I feel like I can look you in your eye and say 'Yo I don't feel like doing that right now.. I don't feel like signing no autographs. and you should understand. I look at you like a human being. Let's kick it..Lets not take pictures..let's kick it. Do that.. I want some females to do that... Every female wanna come up to me and show me how much they're not attracted tome.. Do the opposite cause these ghetto girls..these minority women..they're the only women I can get cause every one else is scared of me. Their parents tell them not to mess with me.. Y'all can't fade me. Y'all can't turn on me Don't change on me.. Stay down for me..'cause I stay down for you and don't extort me unless you intend to do it forever.
Hey Pac why don't you talk about the project you are doing with Jodeci right now...
My next single is gonna be 'How Do You Want It' , Amerikka's Most Wanted, 'Hit 'Em Up' and 'California Love' .. the version people couldn't buy. Hit 'Em Up is a song which is a classic hip hop record..meaning it's a straight battle record to all the Bad Boy staff.. It's to Puffy, to Biggie to Lil Kim..to all of them.
What about Mobb Deep?
My little homies is attacking them. That's why I'm not even addressing the Mobb Deep issue. They're not even on my level. I find it disrespectful that they would even think they can attack me or the West Coast... So I don't even address those busta ass fakes.. Please print that.... It is on and poppin'. If you don't see me rushin' them that means it's cause they bowed down. Those Mobb Deep fools they don't want it.. Chino XL, Mobb Deep , Bad Boy, Biggie , Lil Ceasar, Junior Mafia all of them is on our hitlist and I'm getting with them with my new click called The Outlaws. They're some Jersey dudes who are keeping that east coast flava poppin' . It's some west coast dudes, southern dudes.. It's the epitome of what I represent. I got Big Syke from Thug Life ...
We got 'How Do You Want It' with Ron Hightower doing the directing with me and we got all porno stars. I got Nina Hartley from the Bay..and all the big time people. It's the dirtiest nastiest video I've ever done. I got a playboy version and a regular version. We got nudity. It's the most amazing video you'll ever see.
We just did the video for 'Amerikka's Most Wanted' which is the classic dis video. We got 'Piggy' and 'Buffy'...
We're doing videos fro 'All Eyes On Me', 'I Ain't Mad At Ya', 'All About You' .. The record company got all the money in the world so we're just gonna put it out....
When things get real slow, we'll release a home video with 'Ambitions Of A Rider', and a couple of the hardcore songs....I just did a remix to 'What's Your Phone Number' with all new lyrics. We took that MC Lyte beat from her new song she has out..[Keep On Movin' Up] It's so freaky you won't believe it... I got a whole new album out...waiting for the sound track. It's clean..all positive..all in the vein of songs like 'Keep Your Head Up'. and 'Brenda's Got A Baby'.. It's that type of stuff. I just put out a hardcore double album.. and next I'm gonna put out an introspective album.. It'll be like a 'Me Against The World pt 2' That's what I think my fans are looking for... I'm gonna show that I appreciate your support. ...
Pac you gave a lot of love back to some Bay Area artist like E-40, Rappin' 4Tay, Dru Down and the whole crew...talk about what made you decide to work with them
Because I can't always be in the Bay. I know how the Bay is. The Bay is the type of place where if you ain't there they're gonna talk about you. I wanted them to know that I love you, I feel you and I'm gonna represent for you. I know I gotta a certain amount of acclaim so I bring the Bay with me... I know E-40 is what I was when I was with Digital Underground. He is the Bay right now ..him and 4Tay. So I get them on my album to represent the Bay. It shows we still have love and we're still all good. By us being representatives we bring the Bay where ever we go.. Rappin' 4Tay has always been raw to me and I like his style. When I was in jail I used to always listen to stuff so when I got out we clicked and did the song. Now he's in jail and I gotta do what he did for me. When I was in jail he used to send out shout outs and show support, so now I support 4Tay. Everybody pray for him and send letters. I hope the brother gets out of jail as soon as possible.. [Rappin' 4Tay was released in July '96]. You know its a struggle for every young Black man... You know how it is only God can judge us.
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